Constitution
Found this awesome video – Voices Without a Vote. There is hope – but – we need to do the right thing for them. Enjoy
I first learned of this over at TexasFred’s blog.
Texans join uprising against RNC rules change
Republicans from Texas are leading a mutiny at their national nominating convention in Tampa and fighting proposed rule changes that they say amount to a power grab by entrenched GOP operatives at the expense of grassroots activism.
The issue could explode in a floor fight Tuesday, just after Republican leaders open the first full day of the convention and turn to consider party rules. Although the process is usually a quiet one, the dispute over the new delegate selection process proposal advanced by Mitt Romney supporters threatens to shine a spotlight on the schism.
You should go read the rest of the article he posted. I’m going to take a different approach than he did. After I read his post, I decided to do a little research on the process and what it is that is being challenged. So – HERE (opens up a .pdf) are the rules for the 2012 RNC Convention:
DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS
The states are listed alphabetically below; please scroll to your state for information concerning how its 2286 authorized National Republican Convention delegates are selected. It takes 1143 delegates to select a nominee. Each state’s total number of allotted delegates is shown, usually broken into three categories: RNC, CD and AL.
The RNC delegates are that state’s representatives on the Republican National Committee comprised of the GOP State Party Chair and its National Committeeman and Committeewoman.
The CD delegates come from each state’s Congressional Districts. They usually are elected either by voters in that state’s Presidential Primary or by delegates to the Republican State Convention.
The AL (At Large) delegates are not selected from any specific districts, but rather from the state as a whole. They usually are assigned candidate representation reflecting their state’s Presidential Primary results.
Both the AL and CD delegates normally are “bound” to the candidate they represent for a certain voting period during the National Convention. Examples: one round of convention voting, two rounds, until released by candidate, or by a vote of the entire state delegation. This “binding” becomes extremely important if the Party’s nominee has not been determined by the Primary Elections prior to the National Convention, as the delegates then will be free to vote for a different candidate once they are “unbound.” It takes 1143 delegates to nominate the GOP’s 2012 Presidential candidate.
If there is a convention or caucus process, it is important to be a part of that process from the beginning, so check the dates carefully and plan to participate either to become a National Delegate yourself or to be sure that those representing your state reflect your pro-life, pro-family values. There are an equal number of CD and AL alternates elected who would be seated in place of absent delegates. Those spots should also be filled by pro-life, pro-family individuals.
If you want to see how the individual states determine their apportionment of delegates to any candidate – check out the .pdf file up there. Okay – so that’s the 2012 process. And – from Michelle Malkin’s blog – here is the proposed rule change:
This past Friday, the RNC’s Convention Rules Committee voted – after several contentous votes – to change the party’s rules to allow future presidential candidates to have veto power over who can be delegates from any state – in other words, take power away from the grassroots and their ability to elect fellow conservatives as delegates.
This represents a brazen move by several Washington Beltway consultants and party insiders to diminish the power and influence of conservatives over the party.
Go to her blog to read the full story – this is being reported by a long-time blogger that is at the RNC Convention and attending the Rules Meetings.
Okay – the rules issued by the RNC states that certain delegates are “bound” to their candidate unless specifically released by that candidate to be able to vote for the Presidential nominee of their choice. Depending on the states – some are all or nothing and others may be apportioned. For instance – here in Florida – it is a winner take all apportionment – meaning since Romney won Florida – he gets all of the delegates. Texas is a different story – they have “At Large” delegates that are apportioned proportionately among all candidates in addition to “Congressional District” delegates that are elected or selected at state conventions. They are equally apportioned congressional district within a certain % threshold. There are generally more CD’s that AL’s.
So, here is the problem – we’ll use Texas as an example – the numbers aren’t real, but they are based in reality. Lets say Texas has 100 total delegates – under the proportional system – each candidate gets the proportion of delegates to the proportion of votes they received in the primary election. Romney got 69% of the vote, so he should get 69 of the total AL & CD delegates. Ron Paul got 11.9% of the votes, so he should get 12 of the total AL & CD delegates. Rick Santorum got 8% of the vote, so he gets 8 delegates, and so forth and so on until all delegates are assigned to the candidates.
So – these delegates are “bound” to their candidates in Congressional District Caucuses in which they cast their votes for their candidates. This is the way it has always been. It allows for minority candidates to have a seat at the table. During these caucuses, delegates can actually try to win over other delegates to their side in future rounds of the caucuses. The states set the terms for how long a delegate is “bound” to their candidate and when they can choose to move over to another candidates side to cast their vote. In some cases, you will hear that certain candidates have already specifically released their candidates to vote as they wish – or the candidate doing the releasing will release them to another candidate.
What is at stake is that the GOP is attempting to give the “presumptive nominee” the authority to choose his delegates and disavow state elected delegates selected to represent another candidate. What the GOP see as a threat is that, as previously mentioned before, minority delegates can work hard to bring their candidate’s platform to the other delegates and potentially win over a majority of the delegates and choose a minority candidate as the state’s candidate. So, for instance – in Texas where Romney won 69% and Ron Paul won 11% – Ron Paul supporters could pull over a majority of the 69 to their side – building up steam, until they get to the last round – if they have a large majority – the rest of the delegates will go to the majority side – whereby giving all 100 delegates to Paul instead of Romney. This is how our convention system works.
There is no such thing as a “presumptive nominee.” In our convention system – you don’t have a presidential nominee until a single candidate receives the majority delegates. In this case, for 2012 – that magic number is 1,143. The GOP is afraid there are enough Tea Party people who would rather see Santorum, or Gingrich as the Pres and Ron Paulite supporters out there that don’t want Romney as the Presidential candidate. If they can muster enough delegates to keep Romney from reaching that 1,143 number – he will not be the nominee. They will have to start the process over until they find a candidate that can get that number of delegates.
If you recall – Hillary managed to get 1,000 delegates on her side and it was holding back Obama’s ability to be named as the Presidential candidate. Hillary had to release her delegates and personally nominate Obama before he was able to reach that goal. The GOP is afraid that will happen here and that the Tea Party candidates and/or Ron Paulies won’t release their delegates.
I say, so what? This is America and this is the way our election process works. We should NOT be allowing those good ol’ boys in the GOP establishment to start dictating to we the people who we have to choose as our President. This is an affront to our electoral process and an affront to conservatism. The establishment isn’t happy that we’re not happy with their chosen RINO.
What The Hell? I do believe those libtards are trying to rewrite history and take credit where no credit is due them.
“What I believe the American people deserve is a tax cut for the middle class,” Pelosi said. “And without getting into procedure and timing and process, what we’re going to do is to say at the end of the day the extension of the Obama middle-income tax cuts will take place, and that’s what I have to say on the subject.”
Whoa there Nellie – Since when did the Bush Tax Cuts become the Obama middle-income tax cuts? They are trying to change not only the narrative here but are trying to take credit for an existing program to put some kind of positive spin on this hugely negative administration with all the huge policy mistakes they have been making. The biggest mistake they can make is to not extend the tax cuts to those making more than $250k year also. The problem with libtards is they somehow have this idea that demand-side economics works. They think if you put money in the pockets of middle-class that will somehow increase demand – even though you do nothing to help the suppliers.
Let’s break this down real quickly here – The Law of Supply and Demand
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When Supply is high and Demand is high – prices remain relatively level and suppliers can push the envelope on their pricing strategy. They can increase prices until the demand starts dropping. They now know their spot price for goods. This also means that suppliers can continue to hire in order to meet the high demand.
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When Supply is high and Demand is low – prices have to come down in order to meet the demand and potentially spur increased sells through a lower pricing strategy. But – what happens for suppliers is that they have to lay off employees because there is lower production. This is the point where our economy is at right now. This is where we need to also give tax breaks to high income earners and suppliers to help create demand for their goods to spur production leading to increased hiring.
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When Supply is low and Demand is high – Prices go through the roof. If suppliers don’t have the necessary employees to keep up with production – there will be considerable lag before enough people are hired to meet the demand. This is the part where libtards think creating high demand can be done by giving money to the consumers without doing anything to help the suppliers. Suppliers will keep prices high in order to build reserves to be able to hire. The problem with this is that eventually, demand will decrease because people cannot afford the products/services at such high prices. Suppliers will need to find a way to keep enough interest in their product to keep demand high to the point they will eventually be able to hire people on. This never works. Eventually – supply will come up a little and demand will come down to the point they both reach an equilibrium.
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When Supply is low and Demand is low – prices can go either way – high or low – depending on the product/service. No jobs are created in this scenario.
Ideally – our economy works best under scenario #1 – consumers are buying and producers are selling and hiring. We are nearing the end of scenario #2 heading right to scenario #4. If the idiots in Congress push for scenario #3 – our economy is sunk for a long time. If you only give consumers the money but don’t give suppliers the money to market their goods and services to create a demand – consumers aren’t just going to start spending. If this government gives money through tax breaks only to the middle-class – rather than spending that money – which is what the libtards thingkwill happen – because of the way this economy is – that money will go either to paying off debt, saving it, or both. It will not make it back in to the economy to spur job growth.
None of those libtards understand economics or real-world business because none of them have absolutely any private sector experience where they managed a budget. They are not, nor have they ever been, producers. They are all career politicians that have been nothing but spenders. They don’t truly understand how our economy, the free market capitalism system, or business actually operates. I wonder if they all manage their own personal finances the way they handle the peoples’ money? Do they really go out and put more money on their credit cards when they are in debt thinking that by doing so it will get them out of debt? If not, why do they think that works for our government and our economy?
Morons!
This Guy – Frank Shostak – says it all much more eloquently than I do – he just took a lot more words to say what I did – check it out: Does the U.S. Economy Need Another Stimulus Package?
One last thing – regarding that new “small business jobs” bill that the Senate just past – that $42 Billion monstrosity that supposed will help spur small businesses – tell me exactly how that is supposed to work? $30 Billion of that goes to BANKS again – those very same banks that aren’t lending money now. The other $12 Billion gets spent over a 10 year period as tax breaks. So essentially – that $12 Billion is not real money. That is “expected” revenue that is written off and no longer put in the budget since the government is now say – small business who meet these certain criteria will catch a break over the next 10 years that MIGHT equal $12 Billion. Essentially – what this bill is is another $30 Billion dollar bailout to the banks and does absolutely nothing for the economy. Somehow by giving another bailout to the banks they think this will create 500,000 jobs. Let’s analyze that number real quick – 42,000,000,000 / 500,000 = 84,000. It will cost taxpayers $84,000 per job created – assuming it actually creates that many jobs – which it won’t do since the banks are the only one’s who benefit here. But – let’s look at reality – $30 Billion goes to the banks. That leaves only $12 Billion for the small businesses to create jobs with – but remember – that is not actual money being given to the small businesses – this is just money they collectively do not have to pay to the government over 10 years – still 12,000,000,000 / 500,000 = $24,000. ONLY $24,000 is allocated to the actual creation of jobs. Poverty level in this country starts at $22,000 for a family of 4. $24,000/yr is only $11.53/hr.
Seriously – do they really think we’re that stupid? Let’s call this bill what it really is – Big Bank Bailout #5! – or – Payback to Obambi’s contributors.
NOW – Let’s close this out the right way – Today is Constitution Day – Our founding fathers built the nation and created the best government system in the world on September 17, 1787. They must all be spinning in their graves today to see how those progressive libtards have shredded this document and destroyed our Republic. Anyway – Check out the National Constitution Center website. Some really cool stuff over there. You can get your own pocket constitution – and – take the naturalization test – and find out what founder you most resemble. I already have a pocket constitution – I passed the naturalization test with a 100% and I best resemble James Madison (ideologically – not physically). If you have children – get them involved today. Teach them about our founders, the constitution, and what this country is supposed to be like.
This will not by my usual post of a news article with my own commentary – instead – I want to talk about something different – that age old question regarding liberals and conservatives – the fundamental difference.
I am in an e-mail discussion group with some very hard core progressive liberals. They drive me absolutely insane because their logic appears to be so flawed. One is a long time IRS worker, one is a disabled veteran, one is a housewife with her own Internet business, and one appears to be a college student or recent grad. If there are other flaming progressive liberals in that group they have yet to make themselves know.
Then we have two moderates – one a disabled college student and one another longtime government employee. The student tends to lean center right whereas the government employee tends to lean left. I think he’s a closet liberal as he always sides wit the liberal arguments.
Then – we have myself and three other right leaning conservatives. I don’t know what the other two do during the day – but the other is a retired soldier, retired teacher with three Masters Degrees.
Other than the rhetoric flying from both sides in these groups – I have found the progressives have a very very very illogical understanding of our constitution, the founding of our country, and the true meaning of American exceptionalism.
As for the constitution – I really don’t see how they can read it (if they actually have) and insist that it is a very flexible, living and breathing document and the founders made it this way to change with the times. In other words, it can be twisted to meet their liberal agenda. It is very clear the only flexibility of this document is the ability to amend it.
Their position is that the founders were in favor of big government and therefore the reason for generalities in the spending clause (Art. 1, Sec 8). This particular section also includes the general welfare clause. Until the 1936 U.S. v Butler case – the general welfare clause was ALWAYS narrowly interpreted as Madison suggested. Madison clearly and consistently stated in several instances that the general welfare clause and power to tax ONLY applied to the enumerated powers.
After 1936 – the ability to expand government using the U.S. v Butler decision grew exponentially. It has been the basis for social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare, unemployment and every other entitlement you can think of. I don’t understand the logic of progressives.
It boggles the mind that you can read the constitution, read the articles of confederation and the federalist papers – and still come out thinking the constitution is flexible beyond the 17 enumerated powers and the ability to amend it. In fact, when I suggested they actually read the words of the framers/founders and to read Madison for clarification on the general welfare clause – one stated that the constitution is the construct and OPINION of many. Really? The U.S. Constitution is just opinion? No wonder they’re so screwed up. They don’t even see the Constitution as being the law of the land. To them, it is just a piece of paper that gets in the way of their agenda.
On the founding of this country – they see it as an inherently evil beginning because of slavery and the slaughter and relocation of the native Indians. You know – we get that. There were some rocky spots – but – overall – this country had an exceptional beginning. Our founders were very bright, thoughtful individuals with great foresight. Blood was shed all across the Eastern Seaboard to gain our independence. That blood was shed by both blacks and whites together. If you recall – the actual beginning of the revolution started with the Boston Massacre and death of Crispus Attucks – a runaway slave.
Once the U.S. was an independent nation – the framers set out to form the basis of our government. A monumental undertaking. It took them several attempts before the U.S. Constitution was finally accepted by all. This country became the industrial leader and we never gave up that mantle until the last decade. We have seen a fundamental transition in our world standing since Obama took over. While America is still proclaimed the leader – China is trailing a close second and is expected to take us over before Obama leaves office. There has been considerable discussion around the world about dropping the dollar as the reserve currency. The progressives in this discussion group are in favor of it. They see America as the oppressor and we are evil. I don’t understand how they can hate this country, history, and laws so much and still proclaim themselves to be Americans. They claim capitalism is oppressive and is the cause of all misery around the world. They believe America is imperialistic and our motives for “nation building” is capitalism. Capitalism, innovation, and ingenuity is what elevated America above all others. Our founders were all capitalists and they designed the constitution in a manner to prevent government from interfering in private business.
On American exceptionalism – they believe that it is the government responsibility to take care of all the poor and downtrodden in this society – ergo, social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare, food stamps, etc. They do not see this as forced charity – something that both Madison and Alexander Hamilton were against. As it relates to the general welfare clause – Madison specifically stated that charity is not to be legislated by the government. Hamilton viewed it as more broad – except – it must be general in nature and cannot be specific to any one segment of the country. Entitlement programs are very specific and are not general in nature at all. It specifically targets the rich to pay for the needs of the poor through forced charity.
Don’t get me wrong – I don’t think we should leave the needy behind. In fact, as a Christian, I believe it is our fundamental duty to be our brothers’ keepers and to help the needy whenever possible. The difference is I believe charity begins at home and our time, treasure, and talent is voluntarily given. Progressives believe human nature is evil and that unless the government forces one to be charitable – the poor will go without aide. How flawed is that logic?
I see American exceptionalism being destroyed by turning this country from the land of opportunity to the land of hand outs. They claim our exceptionalism is being elevated by serving the poor through government services. They really don’t get it. Our founders were very specific with regards to the power of taxation and property rights – the power is with the people and no government has the authority to take away legitimately earned property (including earned income).
One other common trait all four of these progressives have in common – they are ALL atheists. They all believe the THEORY of evolution is fact and Darwin was right. So – what I don’t get – if they were true Darwinians – why are they so hellbent on supporting entitlement programs for the poor, weak, and needy? After all, the main tenent of the theory of evolution is “survival of the fittest.” Only the strong will survive. If they believe in that theory – wouldn’t it suffice to say they would also have to subscribe to the notion that the weak should be left behind? See, what comes with those entitlements for the poor is expansive government. Progressives want government control and regulation over everything – something that is so inherently against the American way of life, our constitution, and our founders’ vision for this country.
There are indeed fundamental differences between liberals and conservatives. What I don’t get is how they can hate this country so much that they want to reform and transform it – yet – they still call themselves Americans.

























