The BoBo Carnival of Politics – February 22, 2009 Edition

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Once again this week – we have a lot of great selections and submissions to choose from.  I just wanted to thank all of you who continue to support this carnival with your submissions and also thanks to all of you who continue to come and read them.  Thanks.

Conservative

Rich Bordner presents Sooo, This is Change we can Believe In? « The Pugnacious Irishman posted at The Pugnacious Irishman, saying, “In this post I comment on Obama’s pushing of the stimulus bill. Nothing fancy, just old school thought applied to the current scene.”

I like the way you think Rich.  We wouldn’t be in this mess if people just used common sense like that.  If we lived our personal lives like the government does – we’d all have been in the poor house a long time ago.  You might want to add – if you can’t pay for it in cash – you can’t afford it.

Cmblake6 presents Qur’an Challenge posted at Cmblake6′s Weblog.

There is a great video up at Chris’s place – you gotta see this yourself.

John Kaduk presents Be Like Sweden! posted at The Right Wing.

John – when I read this earlier in the week – I was hoping you would submit this.  I checked my blog carnival before I left a comment.  Let’s just hope we don’t actually go down that European road – as we can all see – their way doesn’t work either.

Selkirk presents Can We Foreclose on the White House? posted at Political Castaway Blog: Broadcasting Conservatism to Rescue America.

I know I certainly would like to at this point!  Excellent discussion regarding the “mortgage bailout.”  Just FYI – did you know that this bill also has a provision to incentivise mortgage lenders?  You know – the same provisions that caused this mess in the first place?  The bill states that a mortgage lender that provides a loan under this stimulus plan will get $1,000 for every loan completed.  Hmm…how does that do anything but provide incentive for predatory lenders again?

Selkirk presents We Are On The Verge of Revolution Again posted at Political Castaway Blog: Broadcasting Conservatism to Rescue America.

I think so too!  In fact, I’m willing to join in that revolution myself.  I think the final spark to light the flame is when they attempt to take away our 2nd Amendment rights.  The founders specifically put that right in there for the people to protect themselves from a tyrannical government – which it appears we are headed in that direction.  You have provided many examples of catalysts – its not going to take much more if you ask me.

Democrats

Evan Pfaff presents President’s Day Edition: What Can you Gain From Playing Rec Sports? posted at Who’s In First Blog, saying, “Having a good hoops game helped Arne Duncan secure a spot in President Obama’cabinet.”

Very interesting story there Evan.  By that standard I should seek out a cabinet position as well.  But, what I see missing is whether or not this guy actually has a background in education.  What kind of jobs did he hold before being named to Secretary of Education?  Has he ever worked in the education field?  If not, that’s just plain crazy.  May as well put American education in last around the globe.

Lance Cooper presents Obama?s Stimulus Plan Is A Complete Joke posted at Recession Thoughts, saying, “The presidnet’s stimulus plan is nothing more than government waste, and government waste will not ‘pump prime’ the economy into recovery.”

A most excellent look at the stimulus plan and what we can look forward to.  I like your suggestions for real recovery.  I would have to agree – the plan that was passed is not only a complete joke – but absolutely dangerous for this country. Good one Lance.  Come back again, ya hear!

Silicon Valley Blogger presents Obama?s Foreclosure Bailout Plan: Should There Be Help For Homeowners? posted at The Digerati Life, saying, “Thanks!”

NP!  You’re welcome. My answer is – nope – we shouldn’t be bailing out homeowners.  As you pointed out in your discussion – 90% of homeowners have played by the rules and are not in foreclosure and we pay our bills on a monthly basis.  Why should the majority bail out the minority that were irresponsible?  That is socialism at its best.

The Smarter Wallet presents Will The Obama Economic Stimulus Check and 2009 Stimulus Plan Save The Economy? posted at The Smarter Wallet, saying, “Thanks!”

NP! You’re welcome. Thanks for the brief history on the beginning of “stimulus.”  However, I don’t see 13$/week stimulating the economy at all.  It is such a small amount that it won’t be a noticeable difference and you can’t really buy anything with that.  Given the fact that inflation is on the rise – by the time this year ends – that $13 will be completely wiped out.  As for the other “two bird with one stone” provisions you mentioned – sure – fixing the infrastructure is a good idea – but – as you also pointed out – there are very few “shovel ready” projects and this money does nothing to stimulate the economy immediately.

Great post.

Liberal

Madeleine Begun Kane presents Ode To Roland Burris posted at Mad Kane’s Political Madness.

Once again I find myself agreeing with you.  Another rare moment, but – I would think that everyone on both sides of the aisle sees the need to make sure this guy resigns.

KP Silverman presents Stimulating Thoughts posted at Kpsilverman’s Weblog, saying, “common sense for the new millenium”

Hi KP – welcome to the Carnival.  There are several areas in your discussion that I an agree with – mostly that allowing Pelosi and Reid – the most far left leaning politicians in D.C. to handle the stimulus bill was by far the biggest mistake that Obama made regarding this bill.  However, might I suggest you actually read this bill yourself?  You can see it at recovery.org or at readthestimulus.org.  You will see that this truly is a pork filled bill and every American in this country should be screaming about it.  The CBO – which is a Democrat majority – has said this bill in its current form will damage this country immensely to the point of no return.  There is more pork in this bill than there is stimulus.  And..yes..Pelosi did actually try to push contraception and STD prevention in this bill.

If you are a true liberal that values privacy and human rights – you should be outraged by this bill.  If you thought Bush and the Patriot Act was “Big Brother” then this bill should outright scare the bejeezus out of you.  The government will now have full access to your entire medical history and your financial information and you can’t stop them. The biggest problem -as you mentioned – is that the media failed us all.  Rather than report in an un-biased fashion and examine just what was in the bill – they were complicit in trying to divert our attentions elsewhere.

Also – you can’t blame this economic mess on “the last eight years” under Bush.  We are in this mess because of both parties over decades of government interference in private business.  The last 8 years didn’t help much with inflating government.  But – this bill has now added 32 NEW government departments and increases the size of government more than the last 8 years – and all done in one fail swoop.

Additionally – this is not the largest tax cut in history.  I have provided links on this blog in the past.  The combined 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts are in fact the largest in history.  While Obama’s tax cuts will put $13/week back in your paycheck – the Bush tax cuts put back $90/week.

I like a lot of what you had to say there – but – some of it you just stuck to the Democrat party line.  You need to look beyond your party line and read things for yourself.  This is a stinker of a bill and it is going to hurt us all.

Libertarian

DWSUWF presents Obama Embraces the Bush/Cheney Unitary Executive. Again and again and again. posted at Divided We Stand United We Fall, saying, “Why do so many on the left greet Obama’s support and active defense of the Bush/Cheney model of the unitary executive with a yawn? It is not the principle of checks, balances and constitutional protections that inform their view of the world. For some (many?) on the left, it is about blind loyalty to a leader and a party. From their perspective, Bush/Cheney executive power is not a problem if Obama is in the White House. Apparently, with the ring of power in Barack Obama’s benevolent hands, the Bush/Cheney executive power will only be used for good. Just put your trust in Barack -not in the rule of law – not in the Constitution – but in the man.”

Good one DWSUWF – I have nothing further to add here.

Miscellaneous

nickel presents $8,000 Homebuyer Tax Credit posted at fivecentnickel.com.

Thanks for this update Nickel.  I’m sure it will be helpful for those considering looking to buy a home in the next few months.

News

Len Penzo presents I’m Just Askin’: Why Bother Being Fiscally Responsible Anymore? posted at Len Penzo . Com, saying, “President Obama’s $75B “rescue plan” for those who are in danger of losing their home is one more reason why it no longer pays to be fiscally responsible. Long live the People’s Democratic Republic of the United States!”

Bwahahaha!  Good one, Len.  Seriously, if Obama really wants to suggest everyone should live within their means – how can he possibly think that by allowin

g people to take out loans under this plan equaling 105% of their home value as living within their means?  Isn’t this the kind of irresponsible activity that caused this mess in the first place.  You must have liked Rick Santelli’s rant also then! I too would like the answers to your 6 questions.

Abhishek presents The Changing face of Public Opinion and its neutrality posted at Celebrate Technology…, saying, “Public and mass opinion and how it has changed in the current era of user generated content (web 2.0) as compared with the traditional strongholds of mass media including news corporations, TV, newspaper, magazines, rallies, Political gatherings etc…”

Howdy Abhishek – welcome to the Carnival.  Great post regarding the “new media.”  Of importance regarding today’s technology – Obama was able to manipulate and utilize all the new media to his advantage during this last election.  I’m in agreement with you that the Internet will be the dominating means for guaging and changing public opinion in years to come, moreso than regular TV news and print media.

C.G. Salgado presents Puerto Rico Statehood: To Be or Not To Be? posted at Inside Government.

An inside look at the history of Puerto Rico and what is behind the reasoning that they have not yet become a state of our union.  This is a very interesting read C.G.  While it has crossed my mind occasionally, I have never actually pursued looking for the answer.

Politics

Aetius Romulous presents The Hunt For The Guilty posted at ScreamBucket.

Welcome to the Carnival Aetius – While I certainly subscribe to the underlying idea here – personal responsibility – there is definitely plenty of blame to go around between Wall Street, large corporations, and government interference – I don’t think all the blame should be placed on those of us who want success and expect to keep what we earned, provided we took all precautions to do what was right and earned our successes honestly.

Riversider presents 85 Ways To Build Community posted at Broadgate Is Great, saying, “85 ways ordinary people can make their communities better places to live, without spending lots of money.”

Well – given the fact that this bill is going to damage our economy further – all we will have left is our communities, friends, and families to turn to.  These are good suggestions – I’ll let this stay!

Jason Zuckerman presents Stimulating Art Stimulates the Economy posted at Jay Zuck’s Sketch of the Day, saying, “I argue in this blog post that the funding of the arts has a direct stimulative effect on the economy and thus it was an integral part of the stimulus bill and not as some contended, pork-barrel spending.”

Hi Jason – sure – I can buy your argument here – however, I might point out that ALL of your information came from the NEA which is a direct beneficiary of the bill.  Do you think it’s possible that there is some bias there and that perhaps they did not report all the facts?  Where has all their past monies actually gone?  Have you as an artist actually benefited in anyway from the NEA? Just saying.

Republicans

Wenchypoo presents The Pelosi-tariat and the Totalitarian Temptation posted at Wisdom From Wenchypoo’s Mental Wastebasket.

Welcome back Wenchypoo!  An excellent dissertation on Stretch Pelosi.  Unfortunately, it seems we on the right were the only one’s who saw this coming.  It certainly appears she is directing this country right now even more than Obama.  After all, this spending bill got pushed through in a rush to fit HER schedule – even over Obama’s own schedule.  I just hope to God that come 2010 we get a Republican majority again and get her out of that seat.

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9 Responses to “The BoBo Carnival of Politics – February 22, 2009 Edition”

  1. Comedy PlusNo Gravatar Says:

    Great list this week. I especially enjoyed the two videos by Cmblake6’s Weblog. Excellent. Both were spot-on.

    Have a terrific week ahead. :)

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  2. Mad KaneNo Gravatar Says:

    Thanks, as always, for including me. I appreciate it!

    Although I must admit I’m getting a bit scared cuz we’ve agreed twice lately. That has to be some sort of record. :)

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  4. JayNo Gravatar Says:

    Hey Bobo, I just wanted to say that first of all I personally have never been a beneficiary of the NEA. Actually, that is something I point out in the article.

    Second, while the information presented by the NEA is certainly biased to a certain extent many of their facts which I attempted to synthesize are compelling. I must also point out that I also give some quick facts from a report prepared for the Nation Governors Association so at least not all my information is from the NEA. They are certainly not a direct beneficiary of NEA funding although you could argue that they do benefit to a degree ie anyway a state can secure more money for anything is good as far as the state is concerned (the nation is another matter).

    The premise I tried to get across is primarily that artists are an integral part of a dynamic economy and if you accept the fact that the stimulus bill is intended to stimulate the economy (which you may not) then artist ought not be dismissed. I also feel that funding the NEA is a reasonably effective way to get funding to the artist that matter to the economy.

    Thanks for your comments.

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  5. The BoBoNo Gravatar Says:

    @Sandy – thanks for dropping in. I enjoyed those videos as well. I hope other readers here will also.

    @Mad Kane – uh oh! What is this world coming to when a conservative and a liberal actually agree on something! ;) Thanks again for your support of this carnival and your continued submissions.

    @Jason – thanks for stopping in and adding additional commentary regarding your submission. First, like I said – I do understand your argument. In fact, assuming all the facts are correct – I will stand with you on this decision to include the arts as part of the stimulus package. I don’t deny the value of the arts in our society whether it be through the visual, written, or auditory mediums. I personally don’t have a creative bone in my body – except perhaps through writing. However, I certainly enjoy the fruits of others labor and I encourage my own children to learn music, doodle, and read and write creatively (btw – the one’s I’m talking about are 5 and 2, my older one’s are already lost! :D ) I believe creative minds are what bring innovation to this country and it was the creative minds of our founding fathers that helped to bring freedom to America.

    I don’t agree that THIS stimulus bill is designed to stimulate this economy. I actually believe there is more spending on pork in there than there is actual economic stimulus. While there are parts in there that do provide for stimulus (and perhaps funding the arts is one of them) it isn’t enough. Also, just wanted to point out that the CBO considers the funding of the arts and the NEA as discretionary spending versus stimulus http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9968/hr1.pdf

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  6. JayNo Gravatar Says:

    I agree that there are some pretty fundamental problems with this bill and in general its stimulative effect on the economy is questionable, but I do think it is an interesting social experiment to see what people’s priorities are if they get in a room and have to put a figure on it.

    I submit and I think you would agree that Government’s priorities are all out of whack especially as it relates to what is and what is not substantially stimulative.

    Also, I think the Congressional Budget Office is just wrong about the NEA funding being discretionary rather than stimulus. Obviously this depends largely on how the NEA uses the money, but it certainly has the potential to be used for stimulus. I will certainly keep an eye on this point and if money is wasted in discretionary and non-stimulative ways in the arts I will do my best to hold them to account.

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