Posts Tagged ‘Ron Paul’
I first learned of this over at TexasFred’s blog.
Texans join uprising against RNC rules change
Republicans from Texas are leading a mutiny at their national nominating convention in Tampa and fighting proposed rule changes that they say amount to a power grab by entrenched GOP operatives at the expense of grassroots activism.
The issue could explode in a floor fight Tuesday, just after Republican leaders open the first full day of the convention and turn to consider party rules. Although the process is usually a quiet one, the dispute over the new delegate selection process proposal advanced by Mitt Romney supporters threatens to shine a spotlight on the schism.
You should go read the rest of the article he posted. I’m going to take a different approach than he did. After I read his post, I decided to do a little research on the process and what it is that is being challenged. So – HERE (opens up a .pdf) are the rules for the 2012 RNC Convention:
DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS
The states are listed alphabetically below; please scroll to your state for information concerning how its 2286 authorized National Republican Convention delegates are selected. It takes 1143 delegates to select a nominee. Each state’s total number of allotted delegates is shown, usually broken into three categories: RNC, CD and AL.
The RNC delegates are that state’s representatives on the Republican National Committee comprised of the GOP State Party Chair and its National Committeeman and Committeewoman.
The CD delegates come from each state’s Congressional Districts. They usually are elected either by voters in that state’s Presidential Primary or by delegates to the Republican State Convention.
The AL (At Large) delegates are not selected from any specific districts, but rather from the state as a whole. They usually are assigned candidate representation reflecting their state’s Presidential Primary results.
Both the AL and CD delegates normally are “bound” to the candidate they represent for a certain voting period during the National Convention. Examples: one round of convention voting, two rounds, until released by candidate, or by a vote of the entire state delegation. This “binding” becomes extremely important if the Party’s nominee has not been determined by the Primary Elections prior to the National Convention, as the delegates then will be free to vote for a different candidate once they are “unbound.” It takes 1143 delegates to nominate the GOP’s 2012 Presidential candidate.
If there is a convention or caucus process, it is important to be a part of that process from the beginning, so check the dates carefully and plan to participate either to become a National Delegate yourself or to be sure that those representing your state reflect your pro-life, pro-family values. There are an equal number of CD and AL alternates elected who would be seated in place of absent delegates. Those spots should also be filled by pro-life, pro-family individuals.
If you want to see how the individual states determine their apportionment of delegates to any candidate – check out the .pdf file up there. Okay – so that’s the 2012 process. And – from Michelle Malkin’s blog – here is the proposed rule change:
This past Friday, the RNC’s Convention Rules Committee voted – after several contentous votes – to change the party’s rules to allow future presidential candidates to have veto power over who can be delegates from any state – in other words, take power away from the grassroots and their ability to elect fellow conservatives as delegates.
This represents a brazen move by several Washington Beltway consultants and party insiders to diminish the power and influence of conservatives over the party.
Go to her blog to read the full story – this is being reported by a long-time blogger that is at the RNC Convention and attending the Rules Meetings.
Okay – the rules issued by the RNC states that certain delegates are “bound” to their candidate unless specifically released by that candidate to be able to vote for the Presidential nominee of their choice. Depending on the states – some are all or nothing and others may be apportioned. For instance – here in Florida – it is a winner take all apportionment – meaning since Romney won Florida – he gets all of the delegates. Texas is a different story – they have “At Large” delegates that are apportioned proportionately among all candidates in addition to “Congressional District” delegates that are elected or selected at state conventions. They are equally apportioned congressional district within a certain % threshold. There are generally more CD’s that AL’s.
So, here is the problem – we’ll use Texas as an example – the numbers aren’t real, but they are based in reality. Lets say Texas has 100 total delegates – under the proportional system – each candidate gets the proportion of delegates to the proportion of votes they received in the primary election. Romney got 69% of the vote, so he should get 69 of the total AL & CD delegates. Ron Paul got 11.9% of the votes, so he should get 12 of the total AL & CD delegates. Rick Santorum got 8% of the vote, so he gets 8 delegates, and so forth and so on until all delegates are assigned to the candidates.
So – these delegates are “bound” to their candidates in Congressional District Caucuses in which they cast their votes for their candidates. This is the way it has always been. It allows for minority candidates to have a seat at the table. During these caucuses, delegates can actually try to win over other delegates to their side in future rounds of the caucuses. The states set the terms for how long a delegate is “bound” to their candidate and when they can choose to move over to another candidates side to cast their vote. In some cases, you will hear that certain candidates have already specifically released their candidates to vote as they wish – or the candidate doing the releasing will release them to another candidate.
What is at stake is that the GOP is attempting to give the “presumptive nominee” the authority to choose his delegates and disavow state elected delegates selected to represent another candidate. What the GOP see as a threat is that, as previously mentioned before, minority delegates can work hard to bring their candidate’s platform to the other delegates and potentially win over a majority of the delegates and choose a minority candidate as the state’s candidate. So, for instance – in Texas where Romney won 69% and Ron Paul won 11% – Ron Paul supporters could pull over a majority of the 69 to their side – building up steam, until they get to the last round – if they have a large majority – the rest of the delegates will go to the majority side – whereby giving all 100 delegates to Paul instead of Romney. This is how our convention system works.
There is no such thing as a “presumptive nominee.” In our convention system – you don’t have a presidential nominee until a single candidate receives the majority delegates. In this case, for 2012 – that magic number is 1,143. The GOP is afraid there are enough Tea Party people who would rather see Santorum, or Gingrich as the Pres and Ron Paulite supporters out there that don’t want Romney as the Presidential candidate. If they can muster enough delegates to keep Romney from reaching that 1,143 number – he will not be the nominee. They will have to start the process over until they find a candidate that can get that number of delegates.
If you recall – Hillary managed to get 1,000 delegates on her side and it was holding back Obama’s ability to be named as the Presidential candidate. Hillary had to release her delegates and personally nominate Obama before he was able to reach that goal. The GOP is afraid that will happen here and that the Tea Party candidates and/or Ron Paulies won’t release their delegates.
I say, so what? This is America and this is the way our election process works. We should NOT be allowing those good ol’ boys in the GOP establishment to start dictating to we the people who we have to choose as our President. This is an affront to our electoral process and an affront to conservatism. The establishment isn’t happy that we’re not happy with their chosen RINO.
Quite the week we’ve had so far! Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson, and now Billy Mays all dead. Unfreakin’ believable! I wish piece of shit crap and tax bill would have died as well! Anyway – after a two week hiatus – The BoBo Carnival of Politics is back with another great edition. Have at it people!
Conservative
The Smarter Wallet presents Dave Ramsey’s Town Hall For Hope posted at The Smarter Wallet, saying, “How does Dave Ramsey explain the financial crisis?”
You’ll see below in response to your credit card discussion that I mentioned I already paid off a few cards and have one left before I’m out of debt. I went through the Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University. Dave Ramsey is awesome and what you have on your blog is absolutey right. Once again, great post using a great resource. I highly recommend it to anybody to view his Town Hall video and his Financial Peace University – especially in today’s economy.
Michael Bass presents Joe Tegerdine VS Gene Taylor! The Battle For Mississippi’s 4th Congressional District! posted at Debt Prison, saying, “Every now and then a person runs for office that gives us hope. For many voters in the last election Barack Obama was that person. Obama promised ambiguous ‘Change’ and the people bought it. Unfortunately, for many Obama fans and devout Democrats, his foreign policy actions and his further crack down on civil liberties has come to resemble something like George Bush part II.”
Interesting – hopefully, Tegerdine turns out to be a true conservative then maybe he can defeat that faux Democratic Conservative Taylor.
lsm presents Teddy?s Legacy Will Kill Us All posted at awaken the elephants blog.
LSM – excellent. I have nothing further to add to this.
Scott Spiegel presents U.S. Invents Diabolical Weapon Called “Twitter” to Bring Down Iranian Regime posted at Scott Spiegel, saying, “President Obama said last week that he doesn’t want the U.S. to be seen as “meddling” in the recent Iranian presidential election. In his view, vocally supporting the protesters is comparable to the CIA’s coup against Mossadeq in 1953.”
Amen, brother! We should be standing behind the Iranian citizens with the full faith and trust of our government and our own citizens. Obama is wrong on this one.
Liberal
Madeleine Begun Kane presents Don’t Ask. Don’t Tell. Just Sign! posted at Mad Kane’s Political Madness.
Mad Kane – I’m sure I don’t need to say this – personally – I think this needs to be repealed entirely and have it back to what it was before Clinton instituted the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy. The UCMJ states that sodomy is a punishable offense as is any other forms of homosexual relations. We don’t need gays OPENLY serving in the military. This would be a huge bust for the morale of our military. I’m sorry – but – the military is by no means ready for this and it would not be accepted.
Libertarian
Wenchypoo presents Just When You Thought You Ran Out of Hope posted at Wisdom From Wenchypoo’s Mental Wastebasket.
Bwahaha – Liberty Lentils – good one.
Miscellaneous
Bob Brooks presents Wall Street Execs Living Large While the Rest of the Country Hurts posted at Bob Brooks – Prudent Money Blog.
Don’t forget – Timothy “Turbo Tax” Geithner is a Goldman Sachs alumni himself and still has buddies there. Nothing will be done. Just more paybacks from this administration for these company’s providing material support for Obama.
Mikkal Travvis presents Ron Paul And The Federal Reserve posted at The Truth.
I don’t generally tend to side with Ron Paul on many issues. I think he’s a nutjob with a lot of his positions. However, I support him 100% with regards to doing away with the Federal Reserve and having them open their books. The decision in the 30′s to hand over that much power to a private organization was by far one of the most idiotic things this country and our government has ever done. It’s time to take that power away from them.
News
Terri Choate presents Trickle Down Learning posted at Plum Duff…not your ordinary gruel!, saying, “Maybe this is old news…but school districts regularly understate the money spent per pupil as they ask for more, more, more.”
Great article. Public schools happens to be one of my “soap-box” issues. While I don’t know what the per pupil cost is in my district – we have multiple layers of administration that are totally unnecessary. Since when does a High School and Middle School need a freakin Assistant Principle for each grade and each of them having a secretary, etc etc – not to mention each grade having at least 2 “administrators” that handle discipline. It’s gotten so ridiculous that most of our tax money goes to paying salaries instead of purchasing text books. I sent four kids through public school. 2 graduated and 2 dropped out. I’m sending my last 2 to private schools now.
Bradley Hankins presents Who Is Back? posted at Bradley Hankins, saying, “You was wondering when I was going to start up again. Well here I am.”
Welcome Back Bradley – looking forward to your analysis of the various bills.
The Smarter Wallet presents Applying For A Credit Card? Review The Credit Card Bill of Rights posted at The Digerati Life, saying, “Obama just signed into law some regulations that will help curb some of the unpopular practices done by the credit industry. Here’s what’s in the credit card bill of rights, which is under review by our government.”
Great words of advise for those who are thinking about getting a credit card. I already cut up all mine and have paid them off. I have one more to go then I’m out of credit card hell. My advise is – use cash! If you can’t afford to pay for it in cash – well – then in today’s economy – you really can’t afford it at all then. Save for it instead.
Politics
Bradley Hankins presents Common Sense Foreign Policy: North Korea posted at Bradley Hankins, saying, “Common sense dealings with North Korea. Even more to come, just one was just too easy.”
You are absolutely right – we should not be looking to the international community to protect ourselves. That is just plain ridiculous. Great post.
NAOMI presents NEW AD AGAINST BENEFIT THIEVES posted at Diary From England.
Naomi – I’ll have to admit that I haven’t been paying real close attention to exactly what is going on over on your side of the big pond. However, I have been following Daniel Hannen pretty closely so I get the point. Unfortunately, we’re seeing a similar situation here in the U.S. – rather than second homes – our politicians get lifelong benefits and 100% salary after they retire and that even gets passed on to their spouses after they die and then the spouses collect 100% benefit and salary until they die. Pretty freakin ridiculous that these politicians consider themselves so elite they can steal from we the people.
Bradley Hankins presents Transparency posted at Bradley Hankins, saying, “Honestly, putting legislation in plain English would help so much.”
Agreed! However, this administration that promised transparency has given us none at all.
Jake presents Why the World Hates America (Part 1) posted at Global Implications, saying, “Given the negative attitude toward the United States around the world, I am writing a multi-part series on the actions of the US since World War II with the worst consequences. I will post an article every day and should finish the seven-part series on Friday, June 26.”
Jake – I hope you don’t mind but I took the liberty to post the links to the remaining articles. This is a very interesting analysis. However, I would say that we still have many more friends and allies than we do enemies. It seems our only real enemies in the world are radical regimes. Please post up the last remaining parts in next week’s carnival! Personally, regarding Part 5 – I think we need to “unflinchingly” support Israel. They are our only true ally in the middle east. Being a former Hebrew Linguist in the Air Force – I understand Israel and the day-to-day struggles they have to face. They are under constant terrorist attack every day. They need our support and we should stand behind them all the way.
Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5
Ram Raghavan presents The incorrectness of political correctness posted at ramraghav.com, saying, “What is political correctness? What is its cause and its consequence?”
Ram – you are so totally right on with this post. The only thing I would add here is that the history of Political Correctness actually has its roots in marxism and Russia. Here’s another good resource for you on the history.
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